Showing posts with label Honda Roadster. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Honda Roadster. Show all posts

New Honda Beat: Next-Generation Kei Roadster Speculated

Remember the original Beat, Honda's pint-sized, two-seater roadster with the mid-engine, rear-wheel drive layout of the 1990s? Well, Japan's Best Car magazine is doing what it does best by speculating on the return of the Beat in Honda's car range.

Our knowledge of the Japanese language is non-existent so we can't share any details from the article (any help would be hugely appreciated) but we assume from the side air-vents that the design proposal is for a rear-engined roadster - something like the poor man's Porsche.

We don't know if the rendering / story is based on actual inside information or pure speculation, but it would be interesting to hear your say about whether or not a model like this could be successful in markets outside Japan in today's world of downsizing and greener cars.

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http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/12/new-honda-beat-next-generation-kei.html



Road and Track's Gone but not Forgotten for 2010

Here's a nice article on some of the cars that will be 'retired' for 2010.
2010 Automotive Hot List: Gone But Not Forgotten
The automotive world will be a poorer place for 2010 without these five cars.
If you're up on your Honda S2000 knowledge, then you probably know two things: The first is that this high-revving roadster, first sold in late 1999 for the 2000 model year, was originally envisioned as a limited-edition model to commemorate Honda's 50th anniversary. The second is that after a 10-year model run (which, by the way, far exceeded the company's expectations — over 12,000 were sold worldwide in calendar year 1999, with 110,673 sold worldwide through 2008), the S2000 will cease production this year, the final car scheduled to roll off the assembly line at the end of June.
For those of you not up to speed on Honda's S2000, here's a brief refresher course: The S2000 brought Formula 1 engine technology to the street, with a 2.0-liter inline-4 that made 240 bhp (Honda was, understandably, very proud of the car's 120 bhp per liter — still an incredible number for a normally aspirated car to this day) and revved to 9000 rpm. The car made its peak power at an astronomical 8300 rpm, with Honda's VTEC variable valve timing kicking into high gear at 6000 rpm. The downside was that it only made 153 lb.-ft. of torque at 7500 rpm...so you really needed to rev it. Luckily, snicking through the gates of the 6-speed manual gearbox was pure joy, as it was (and remains today) one of the best-shifting gearboxes ever put into a production car.
Due to a curb weight of just 2755 lb. and rear-wheel drive, the S2000 was a terrific twisty two-lane and track-day machine, with quick, well-weighted steering and a fairly neutral handling balance. But early cars gained a reputation for being a bit nervous at the limit, resulting in the occasional unintended oversteer.

The S2000's interior was both unique and sporting (also Spartan), focused solely on the art of fast driving. Interesting features included its half-moon bar-graph tachometer display, a large digital speedometer readout as well as bar-graph displays for fuel level and coolant temperature. This instrument panel was ahead of its time in 1999, and many thought it was the wave of the future. Honda kept this electronic setup throughout the S2000's 10-year model run, although the tachometer's graph was reworked into more of a quarter-moon for the 2004 model. The car also had supportive seats and a grippy, small-diameter leather-wrapped 3-spoke steering wheel.
Although little changed on the S2000 throughout its 10-year run, 2004 saw updates to the engine and suspension. Addressing the S2000's anemic torque, Honda increased the engine's stroke to 90.7 mm for a gain of 181 cc, making it a 2.2-liter. High- and low-speed VTEC cam lobes were adjusted to make more productive torque, while the engine's redline was lowered to 8000 rpm. Peak power remained at 240 bhp, but was generated 500 rpm lower at 7800 rpm. Torque was increased from 153 lb.-ft. at 7500 rpm to 161 lb.-ft. at 6500 rpm. The ratios of the first four gears were also lowered to further improve acceleration.

To address the S2000's nervous tail, the '04 model received softer rear springs, a softer rear anti-roll bar and altered geometry. Wider tires (215/45R-17s up front with 245/40R-17s at the rear, versus the original car's 205/55R-16 front, 225/50R-16 rear setup) improved grip, especially at the rear.

On the outside, the '04 car could be spotted by its new 10-spoke wheels, new headlight cluster, LED taillights and oval exhaust tips. Inside, reshaped doorpanels, the aforementioned instrument panel and silver accents for the center console and radio cover were the highlights.
For the 2008 model year, Honda unveiled the limited-edition S2000 CR (for Club Racer), although the standard S2000 was still available. The CR's large rear wing, removable hardtop and in-your-face front air dam explained in no uncertain terms that, yes, this S2000's home was the race track. The car's firmer suspension — 38-percent stiffer front springs with 50-percent stiffer front dampers and 17-percent stiffer rear springs with 32-percent stiffer rear dampers, along with larger front and rear anti-roll bars hit home Honda's intentions. Even the stereo and air conditioning were deleted to save weight, although they could be added back as options. Stickier Bridgestone Potenza RE070s (215/45R-17 front, 255/40R-17 rear) and quicker steering rounded out the mechanical changes — the engine compartment was left completely untouched.
For a final farewell to the S2000 here at R&T, I borrowed a CR for a weekend track day at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in Monterey, California. After giving the car all it was worth around Laguna's 2.2-mile road course, I can easily say the CR is the best S2000 Honda has ever built. The stiffer suspension settings, stickier tires, better aero work and hardtop make the CR a truly terrific track-day weapon. The CR's steering is quick and precise and the car is very well planted. Handling is near neutral, with just a bit of understeer at the limit that's easily adjusted with the throttle or trail braking, allowing me to "back it in," for instance, into the left-hander at the top of Laguna's Corkscrew. In low-speed turns, the CR's easy-to-control demeanor allows power-on tail-out action.
Due to the CR's small band of usable power — basically from 6000-8000 rpm — lots of shifting is required to keep the engine on boil. No problem, what with the car's phenomenally positive short-throw 6-speed manual. Another CR plus? Lots of head room, allowing plenty of helmet clearance.

Minuses? Only a few. Obviously, we wouldn't turn away more power if Honda were offering — there's just not a lot of oomph down the straights. At the same time, this is a true driver's car in the sense that it needs to be driven hard to eek out its full potential. There's also something truly special about the high-pitched scream emanating from under the hood, along with the engine's willingness to rev to 8000 rpm all day long.

Honda fits the exact same brakes to the CR as it does the standard S2000 (including pads), which means the pedal exhibits a nice, firm feel. But, toward the end of the first day of lapping, the pedal became soft, with longer stopping distances. By the end of the second day at Laguna, the pads were completely shot. The fix here would be more aggressive pads, an absolute must for any production car on a track day.

Ok, so the CR is a fantastic track car. But what's it like driving it to and from the track, or more importantly: Would a sane person even consider driving it to work? Although the CR's ride is harsher than your average family sedan, it's actually pretty easy to live with. Sure, some clutch slippage and revs are needed for quick-off-the-line stoplight launches; and don't expect Lexus-like civility inside the cockpit — the engine can be buzzy and a fair amount of tire noise makes its presence felt on the highway. But compared to pretty much any track-day car equipped with aftermarket suspension components, the CR is a pussycat.
And that's part of what makes the S2000 CR so alluring. You can virtually drive it off the showroom floor directly to a track, where it will perform (driver willing) at a level with cars making far more power, no modifications needed (other than brake pads). Plus, at $38,665 — with air conditioning and an 8-speaker AM/FM/CD stereo system — the CR is a mighty good bargain.

If the S2000 is so good, why is Honda killing it? A U.S. Honda official said: "It was simply decided that after a successful 10-year run, with lagging demand and a tough economic climate, production should be ended." And it was a good run, especially for a car Honda didn't have big plans for. But with only 2538 cars sold in the U.S. in 2008, the writing was on the wall.
So what can we expect as far as an affordable Honda sports car in the future? For now, a Honda source told us there are "no current plans for a successor. Never say never, but there's nothing on the radar."

In other words, until the economy picks up, don't count on something like the S2000 from Honda. But when things start looking up again, we wouldn't be surprised if Honda brings out a new sports car that's less expensive than the S2000, yet equally high-revving and exciting.
We can only hope. In the meantime, if you're looking for killer track-day car that's also a blast to drive on the street, the S2000 CR should be at the top of your list. Get one while you still can.
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Next Gen Honda S2000?


The cover of the latest issue (09.10.08) of Japan's Best Car magazine features a rendering of a yellow roadster and the table of contents asks "New S2000!?"

Also shown on the cover adjacent to the rendering of the yellow roadster are some cropped photos of some sort of roadster prototype, but judging by the small wheels and 4-lug hubs, it doesn't appear to be the S2000 successor. Could it be the long rumored sub-S2000 roadster? A new Beat? (Please?)

Source; http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=782222

Lot's of speculation on this forthcoming vehicle. Here are some links to previous articles that I have put together;

http://thehondaportal.blogspot.com/2008/07/could-this-be-2011-honda-s2000.html

http://thehondaportal.blogspot.com/2007/11/inspiration-for-next-s2000.html

LOW EMISSION HONDA ROADSTER BREAKS COVER

Two-seat design study unveiled at British International Motor Show

Honda’s low-emission sportscar study model has been revealed at the British International Motor Show, at ExCel, London.

The lightweight roadster design study displays one of Honda’s core engineering principles – to design stylish and exciting cars that are also environmentally responsible.

Named the OSM (for Open Study Model), the two-seater joins the confirmed-for-production CR-Z sports hybrid and FCX Clarity hydrogen fuel cell car on the Honda stand at the show.

“We’re trying to show that low emission cars can be attractive,” says Andreas Sittel, Project Leader for OSM. “There is no reason why a car that’s more environmentally friendly can’t look great too – and be sporty and fun to drive.”

The concept for the project was ‘Clean and Dynamic’ – and this direction was followed for both the exterior and interior design, ensuring a joined-up, consistent ‘language’ between the two. One example of this can be seen at the rear of the car, where the body actually extends into the cabin between the seats.

The exterior design is a balance of smooth, rounded curves and sharp lines to provide definition in key areas. The headlights are cleverly integrated into the front end, stretching from the nose to the top of the wheel arches to look more like a part of the original body.

Inside, this uninterrupted, fluid approach is continued, with long sweeping curves extending from both door panels to form a frame for the instrument display. The concept for the dashboard was to avoid creating the traditional block of ‘heavy’ colour and material in front of the driver; in keeping with the clean and lightweight theme. For that reason, the dash is broken into sections, with the most important instruments in direct line-of-sight of the driver.

Key information is displayed in a rounded, enclosed central binnacle, with levels and figures in bright blue on a black background. This matches the trim inside the car, with the seats and door furniture trimmed in a new, gloss-effect blue leather, accompanied by white leather sections, in line with the exterior body colour, a one-off paint called Mystic Pearl.

The driver’s main controls and functions are distributed in an intuitive layout, close at hand on a panel that curves downwards to the right of the driver. A centrally-mounted semi-sequential gear-shift points towards a fun-to-drive transmission, along with paddle shifts either side of the steering wheel. Integrated into the gearshifter itself is a red ignition ‘start’ button, which reinforces the sporty direction of the car.

The Honda OSM was designed by Honda’s R&D facility in Offenbach, Germany. It’s the latest example of the young talent being developed within Honda’s design studios in Europe – following the Honda Small Hybrid Sports Concept (Geneva 2007) and the Accord Tourer Concept (Frankfurt 2007).

At present, the Honda OSM is a design study model, and there are no plans for it to enter production.

Source: http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/