Showing posts with label Honda Beat. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Honda Beat. Show all posts

Honda to Fuse S2000 and Beat Into One

Small, Rear-Drive, Mid-Engine Roadster on the Drawing Board

The Honda S2000 was recently killed and the Honda Beat 660cc minicar of 1991 all but forgotten, but in a strange comeback story, they both may live again -- fused into the one car. We have just caught word from a source close to Honda that the company is busy at work 'molding' the two together in a radical new project that is taking shape inside the halls of Tochigi's R&D Centre just north of Tokyo. Dropped onto a modified Fit (Jazz) platform, the new roadster will apparently employ a rear mid-engined layout. An illustration of what the new car could become is depicted.

It's an intriguing new sports car plan from a company that doesn't really have much left in that genre short of the Civic Si and the hybrid CR-Z (the Civic Type R will cease production in August). We did some background research and discovered that Honda has lodged a patent pending in Japan to build a roadster using a subframe and parts from current cars but adding technology to lower curb weight and reduce production costs. The patent actually refers to the "engine being fitted to a center frame" which translates from Japanese to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive. So it will no doubt be lightweight and have good front-rear weight distribution at the same time.

But whether that "mid-engine" refers to a hybrid, fully electric or fuel cell is still unclear. In recent years, Honda has dabbled in all three alternative forms of propulsion, so it's anyone's guess which way they will lean. It's unlikely the automaker will build the car with a gasoline engine option as that would restrict its international application. And if there's anything the company wants, it's to make this car a global success. Don't expect to see this car on the road before 2014.

In other rear-wheel drive compact coupe news, as we've reported, Toyota too is in the process of developing a vehicle, but it will be a gas-powered, 1.5-liter two-door based on the hot hatch concept from GRMN that it debuted at last January's Tokyo Auto Salon. For those who haven't been paying attention to the company's racing exploits at Nurburgring recently, GRMN stands for Gazoo Racing - Meister of Nurburgring. Called a mini-FT-86 in Japan, the new compact coupe is expected in showrooms by early 2013.
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Toyota planning new compact sports car based on iQ

Yes! It is true! The era of compact sports cars is almost here! The latest reports from the Japan’s Best Car Magazine indicate that Toyota is planning a new vehicle based on the iQ city car which will make its debut next year.

According to our sources the upcoming car will be fun to drive and will carry a 1.3-liter gasoline engine, which in our opinion, will be more than enough to enjoy the small convertible. The new car will come with a price tag of $20,300 (2 million Yen). But this is not the only good news we have: Honda is also planning a successor for the old Beat! Now we have to wait and see the response from Mazda! More details to be revealed!

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http://www.4wheelsnews.com/toyota-planning-new-compact-sports-car-based-on-iq/

Original Honda Beat Information

With all this talk about the Honda Beat making a 'comeback' (don't know if this car would be destined for North America or just Japan like the original), I thought I'd do some digging in to the Original Beat.
The Honda Beat is a small sportscar, that fits the regulations of a keicar. It is a convertible and has a midengine. The production began in May 1991 and finished in February 1996. The total number of cars produced was around 33,600. Most of the production (around 2/3) occurred in the first year, and then production and sales reduced drastically. There were two different models of Beat (PP1-100 and PP1-110), although there were a couple of different limited edition versions as well. Variations on the first model were just cosmetic updates. Only the second model had any real mechanical differences. All cars were offered with the option of a drivers-side airbag. In typical Honda Fashion, the Beat's engine did not utilize a turbocharger or supercharger. The 660 cc engine was modified with the MTREC system, which included one throttle valve for each of the 3 cylinders, to produce 64 horsepower (48 kW). Only manual transmission was available. The MTREC design will filter down to the 1993 Honda Today keicar. The Beat is part of a wave of keicar-sized sports cars in the late 80s -- its competitors included the Suzuki Cappuccino and Mazda's Autozam AZ-1. Together they predicted the arrival of the Smart Roadster over a decade later, while Japan wouldn't see a new model of the genre until the recent Daihatsu Copen.

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http://www.hondabeat.dk/



Honda Beat To Return In 2011, Based On Honda OSM Concept?

Not sure if this means anything to us in North America, but would look like what I would have thought a Honda S3000 would look like.
According to the news-makers at Japanese auto magazine Best Car, Honda is working on returning the Beat name to the streets of Tokyo after a 13 year absence.

The original Beat ran on a rear-wheel-drive platform and was powered by a 47kW 660cc engine, putting it in the ‘kei’ category – a class of car so small and with such a low environmental impact, that tax breaks and parking discounts are part of the benefits of owning one.

Best Car says that Honda is looking at the market closely and working feverishly to bring the new Beat – based on the Honda OSM concept – to showrooms at the right time, likely around 2011.

The ‘kei class’ 2011 Honda Beat will, according to Best Car, be powered by the same 660cc engine motivating Honda’s Life, Zest and Zest Spark kei cars, utilising the same front-wheel-drive platform.

While all-wheel-drive is an option, it is likely the new Beat will deliver its limited power to the front wheels only.

How much of this can be believed will remain to be seen, but as we’re unlikely to see the Beat in Australia it’s a moot point for Aussies anyway.

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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/27369/honda-beat-to-return-in-2011-based-on-honda-osm-concept/

Next Gen Honda S2000?


The cover of the latest issue (09.10.08) of Japan's Best Car magazine features a rendering of a yellow roadster and the table of contents asks "New S2000!?"

Also shown on the cover adjacent to the rendering of the yellow roadster are some cropped photos of some sort of roadster prototype, but judging by the small wheels and 4-lug hubs, it doesn't appear to be the S2000 successor. Could it be the long rumored sub-S2000 roadster? A new Beat? (Please?)

Source; http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=782222

Lot's of speculation on this forthcoming vehicle. Here are some links to previous articles that I have put together;

http://thehondaportal.blogspot.com/2008/07/could-this-be-2011-honda-s2000.html

http://thehondaportal.blogspot.com/2007/11/inspiration-for-next-s2000.html